Should be renamed cowboy car restorers, as sloppy as the cowboy builders programme . The 'good guys' are those that do the job properly and pay attention to detail
I sincerely hope that channel 5 buries this series for good. The programme is complete and utter trash and the presenters are total morons who's knowledge of motor vehicles whether old or new is non existant. I'm not going to try to list the errors and stupid mistakes as this would take me the rest of my life.When you bury the programme please bury the presenters with it.
Is this programme a con then to get people to phone in? I did see some inconsistencies but being naive thought they were just shortcuts for TV purposes. I like the programme and entered the competition to win the GT even though I have a Roadster. Bit annoyed if this is a scam!
i own a mgb gt this program was rubbish, never seen a sheet of flat steel, suddenly get a curve,i agree not the same car, they couldnt do it at that price,if my back axle fell off, with rust i would be looking to re body the car, rust travells. !
I agree with those who say it was 2 cars (MGB) Original car needed floor pans, sills, wings ..well everything. Can't see how you can professionally restore a car like that without grit blasting it. If it was the original car at the end it certainly wasn't done in 2 weeks. Wheeler Dealer is streets ahead and a lot more honest programme.
I agree with you ROY ,but there was NO mention of this in the programme. Also there are too many inconsistances as already mentioned about the Rear Axle for instance ,this car was pushed and then loaded onto the back of a transporter , moved in an out of the workshop for 'washing off' and also just moving it into position for the 4 poster lift ,THEN all of a sudden the axle 'falls off' and with all four ends missing ! ! So think there is something odd going on to convince me with this project ' A post welding ,scuttle ,sills ,floors .How could all this of been done in the time the programme says !
I'm sure there are a lot more guy's out there who know a lot more than me about the renovation of the MGB.GT As for me well i used to fit webasto sunroofs !.
I agree with you ROY ,but there was NO mention of this in the programme. Also there are too many inconsistances as already mentioned about the Rear Axle for instance ,this car was pushed and then loaded onto the back of a transporter , moved in an out of the workshop for 'washing off' and also just moving it into position for the 4 poster lift ,THEN all of a sudden the axle 'falls off' and with all four ends missing ! ! So think there is something odd going on to convince me with this project ' A post welding ,scuttle ,sills ,floors .How could all this of been done in the time the programme says !
I'm sure there are a lot more guy's out there who know a lot more than me about the renovation of the MGB.GT As for me well i used to fit webasto sunroofs !.
coments made by your so called with ref to flat roof on mgb? if you use a set of rollers and a wheeling machine you will achieve the correct contour for the roof as i have done on many ocasions when making door skins
me again,56 years old and never in my life been cross enough to complain about a TV program, until that is the E-Type last week.Could it get worse?Oh yes,as my learned friends have described,the back axle wouldn't have fallen off,the paint spraying,insulting,and of course the change of car.All insulting and no longer funny.The thing is will Channel have the honesty to take it off mid series having now surely realised their mistake
@ Karen Masters....I've just emailed channel 5 about not being able to find a winners list...maybe we are being conned into entering and wasting our money... :-(
Hmmm specialist valuer of cars all over the world eh... ought to concentrate on the UK market - £5k??
Was it only me that thought leaving the US spec ride height with chrome bumpers looked stupid??
Bring back chop shop - at least that was comedy, this is just a farce!
FACT No MGB. GT came out of the fatory with a sunroof fitted . This is an aftermarket product , the sun roof they are takeing out is a Britax an NOT a Webasto ,Webasto has an ASH frame. There is no way they can get the right strength or body contour with a flat sheet of steel plate welded in !
They would be better showing the full series just doing 1 car rather than trying to ''kid' us into saying they can restore that car in 2 weeks .
Oh an why did he WAIST money buying' Raceing mirrors' and then never fitting them ?
better than top gear. Great to watch even if they use TV magic. After a hard day at work this programme makes me smile and.... i get to see a lovely car. Keep it up and everyone needs to lighten up a bit.
whats the point in having comments boxes when all you do is remove them...I added a valid opinion soon after the programme agreeing with lots of other viewers wondering if the car was actually not the same car at the end as the beginning....any way you will remove this comment as well so whats the point...you are as valid as the programme...krh59
This Programme is obviously purely for entertainment (and not very good entertainment either) Anybody who knows anything about the MGB could see that the car at the begining and end were two different cars!
Dwight.
I watched the latest episode and was frankly disappointed with the content. I restore MGBs on a daily basis and can state with some certainty that there was no way anyone could restore the rubber bumper car could have been transformed within the budget stated, even using second hand parts. The whole show is about entertainment over facts. It is extremely poor and should be removed at the earliest time as it adds nothing to classic car restoration or for that matter entertainment. I totally agree wih all the negative comments made by others about the validity, veracity of the claims made. POOR attempt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I currently have a MGC awaiting restoration. It is an original 1968 car with only 3 owners and is in better shape structurally than the one they restored. I am willing to challenge the producers to restore my car for £2700. I will pay them that sum to finish it for me to the standard show for the finished rubber bumper car.
The end car was a completly different car to the one purchased at the start. The car at the end was an early rubber bumper car and the one purchased was a later type. This is proven with by the dashboard and clocks being completly different, the brake servo being in a different place, the radiator being further back. To convert a rubber bumpered car to chrome you would have needed 2 new front wings (looked like they where needed any way) an addapter kit to mount the bumpers, filler pices for the rear wings and to do it propperly a full suspension lowering kit none of which was mentioned and all of which would have cost half their budget if purchase new. No one looked at the sills and floors even though they where rotten. If this was all replaced correctly it would have taken them all of their 2 weeks and all of their just to get the shell right. The rear leaf springs on the original car where cut for dramatic effect as you can see the cuts. You cannot weld up a sun roof with a sheet of steel as the roof is not flat. I have asked many restorers about doing exactly the same thing with mine and have been told the only possible way to do it is to take a roof off of another gt and try to fit it (very expensive and time consuming to get right). The valuer at the end must have been blind as early rubber bumpered gts are the least loved out of all the MGBs and are not worth what he valued it at let alone what the true restoration cost was (There is no way they made any money on this project and it was probably quite embrasing the amount they did lose considering they payed £500 for a scrap car in the first place)
I cant help but wonder if it was the same car at the end, as there was no mention of the rear wing, he purchased bullet mirrors but the end car had square, the engine bay was not yellow (they would have had to remove the engine to paint in there), and the roof would have been flat with the welded sheet on it rather than concave as the geen car at the end. Oh yes, and as for the rear axle "falling off", clearly the leaf spring was cut to MAKE it fall off, this is one of the strongest parts of the car!
Comments (28)
3 months ago
Steve E
Should be renamed cowboy car restorers, as sloppy as the cowboy builders programme . The 'good guys' are those that do the job properly and pay attention to detail
3 months ago
Jeff
Total theatre using HAM actors. TOTAL RUBBISH from beginning to end.
6 months ago
Dave
I sincerely hope that channel 5 buries this series for good. The programme is complete and utter trash and the presenters are total morons who's knowledge of motor vehicles whether old or new is non existant. I'm not going to try to list the errors and stupid mistakes as this would take me the rest of my life.When you bury the programme please bury the presenters with it.
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7 months ago
Richard Fairburn
Is this programme a con then to get people to phone in? I did see some inconsistencies but being naive thought they were just shortcuts for TV purposes. I like the programme and entered the competition to win the GT even though I have a Roadster. Bit annoyed if this is a scam!
7 months ago
leonard crissell
i own a mgb gt this program was rubbish, never seen a sheet of flat steel, suddenly get a curve,i agree not the same car, they couldnt do it at that price,if my back axle fell off, with rust i would be looking to re body the car, rust travells. !
7 months ago
Albie Miller
I agree with those who say it was 2 cars (MGB) Original car needed floor pans, sills, wings ..well everything. Can't see how you can professionally restore a car like that without grit blasting it. If it was the original car at the end it certainly wasn't done in 2 weeks. Wheeler Dealer is streets ahead and a lot more honest programme.
7 months ago
Dave Stott
I agree with you ROY ,but there was NO mention of this in the programme. Also there are too many inconsistances as already mentioned about the Rear Axle for instance ,this car was pushed and then loaded onto the back of a transporter , moved in an out of the workshop for 'washing off' and also just moving it into position for the 4 poster lift ,THEN all of a sudden the axle 'falls off' and with all four ends missing ! ! So think there is something odd going on to convince me with this project ' A post welding ,scuttle ,sills ,floors .How could all this of been done in the time the programme says ! I'm sure there are a lot more guy's out there who know a lot more than me about the renovation of the MGB.GT As for me well i used to fit webasto sunroofs !.
7 months ago
Dave Stott
I agree with you ROY ,but there was NO mention of this in the programme. Also there are too many inconsistances as already mentioned about the Rear Axle for instance ,this car was pushed and then loaded onto the back of a transporter , moved in an out of the workshop for 'washing off' and also just moving it into position for the 4 poster lift ,THEN all of a sudden the axle 'falls off' and with all four ends missing ! ! So think there is something odd going on to convince me with this project ' A post welding ,scuttle ,sills ,floors .How could all this of been done in the time the programme says ! I'm sure there are a lot more guy's out there who know a lot more than me about the renovation of the MGB.GT As for me well i used to fit webasto sunroofs !.
7 months ago
roy
coments made by your so called with ref to flat roof on mgb? if you use a set of rollers and a wheeling machine you will achieve the correct contour for the roof as i have done on many ocasions when making door skins
7 months ago
paul bryan
me again,56 years old and never in my life been cross enough to complain about a TV program, until that is the E-Type last week.Could it get worse?Oh yes,as my learned friends have described,the back axle wouldn't have fallen off,the paint spraying,insulting,and of course the change of car.All insulting and no longer funny.The thing is will Channel have the honesty to take it off mid series having now surely realised their mistake
7 months ago
Lisa O
@ Karen Masters....I've just emailed channel 5 about not being able to find a winners list...maybe we are being conned into entering and wasting our money... :-(
7 months ago
Dave Punter
Hmmm specialist valuer of cars all over the world eh... ought to concentrate on the UK market - £5k?? Was it only me that thought leaving the US spec ride height with chrome bumpers looked stupid?? Bring back chop shop - at least that was comedy, this is just a farce!
7 months ago
Dave Stott
FACT No MGB. GT came out of the fatory with a sunroof fitted . This is an aftermarket product , the sun roof they are takeing out is a Britax an NOT a Webasto ,Webasto has an ASH frame. There is no way they can get the right strength or body contour with a flat sheet of steel plate welded in ! They would be better showing the full series just doing 1 car rather than trying to ''kid' us into saying they can restore that car in 2 weeks . Oh an why did he WAIST money buying' Raceing mirrors' and then never fitting them ?
7 months ago
Jason Osborne
better than top gear. Great to watch even if they use TV magic. After a hard day at work this programme makes me smile and.... i get to see a lovely car. Keep it up and everyone needs to lighten up a bit.
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7 months ago
krh59
whats the point in having comments boxes when all you do is remove them...I added a valid opinion soon after the programme agreeing with lots of other viewers wondering if the car was actually not the same car at the end as the beginning....any way you will remove this comment as well so whats the point...you are as valid as the programme...krh59
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7 months ago
Mike Hughes
This Programme is obviously purely for entertainment (and not very good entertainment either) Anybody who knows anything about the MGB could see that the car at the begining and end were two different cars!
7 months ago
Dwight Smiley
Dwight. I watched the latest episode and was frankly disappointed with the content. I restore MGBs on a daily basis and can state with some certainty that there was no way anyone could restore the rubber bumper car could have been transformed within the budget stated, even using second hand parts. The whole show is about entertainment over facts. It is extremely poor and should be removed at the earliest time as it adds nothing to classic car restoration or for that matter entertainment. I totally agree wih all the negative comments made by others about the validity, veracity of the claims made. POOR attempt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I currently have a MGC awaiting restoration. It is an original 1968 car with only 3 owners and is in better shape structurally than the one they restored. I am willing to challenge the producers to restore my car for £2700. I will pay them that sum to finish it for me to the standard show for the finished rubber bumper car.
7 months ago
Gary Buckland
The end car was a completly different car to the one purchased at the start. The car at the end was an early rubber bumper car and the one purchased was a later type. This is proven with by the dashboard and clocks being completly different, the brake servo being in a different place, the radiator being further back. To convert a rubber bumpered car to chrome you would have needed 2 new front wings (looked like they where needed any way) an addapter kit to mount the bumpers, filler pices for the rear wings and to do it propperly a full suspension lowering kit none of which was mentioned and all of which would have cost half their budget if purchase new. No one looked at the sills and floors even though they where rotten. If this was all replaced correctly it would have taken them all of their 2 weeks and all of their just to get the shell right. The rear leaf springs on the original car where cut for dramatic effect as you can see the cuts. You cannot weld up a sun roof with a sheet of steel as the roof is not flat. I have asked many restorers about doing exactly the same thing with mine and have been told the only possible way to do it is to take a roof off of another gt and try to fit it (very expensive and time consuming to get right). The valuer at the end must have been blind as early rubber bumpered gts are the least loved out of all the MGBs and are not worth what he valued it at let alone what the true restoration cost was (There is no way they made any money on this project and it was probably quite embrasing the amount they did lose considering they payed £500 for a scrap car in the first place)
7 months ago
Alan Rowlands
Rotten is rotten different car To far gone in obvious parts Would you want it Valuer is just giving it a cash option not quality
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7 months ago
Adam
I cant help but wonder if it was the same car at the end, as there was no mention of the rear wing, he purchased bullet mirrors but the end car had square, the engine bay was not yellow (they would have had to remove the engine to paint in there), and the roof would have been flat with the welded sheet on it rather than concave as the geen car at the end. Oh yes, and as for the rear axle "falling off", clearly the leaf spring was cut to MAKE it fall off, this is one of the strongest parts of the car!
7 months ago
karen masters
I was wondering the same as lisa, how do we find list of winners please
7 months ago
lisa overton
ive entered for all 3 in the competition....but there is no list for the winners...can sombody hep me please..
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